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Looking for a legit and reliable resource to answer this. I have read a few blogs that speculate about people getting usage emails and texts but then I have also heard of people calling ATT and denying the use and getting out of the addition of tether charges. I haven't used MiWi much since the rumors came out and I would like to use the data I pay for in a manner that I choose.

asked 04 Jul '11, 21:46

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i think its because ATT uses a different APN for tethering, and mywi works similar to the built-in iOS tethering mode.

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answered 04 Jul '11, 21:54

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I guess I should have asked has anyone ever fought them on it and lost? All I can find is hearsay and speculations.

(04 Jul '11, 22:01) Theonecalleddoc Theonecalleddoc's gravatar image

sorry im not on AT&T im on Tmobile US we dont get charged extra for tethering downside is edge speeds but where i live edge almost matches to ATT 3G speeds well sometimes

(04 Jul '11, 22:23) 1L1keTurtles 1L1keTurtles's gravatar image

They can because tethering apps like MyWi use the default APN, PDANet is the only one I know of with the option to hide it.

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answered 04 Jul '11, 22:02

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edited 04 Jul '11, 23:58

I guess the real question is are they actually doing anything about it? AT&T certainly seem to deserve their reputation

(04 Jul '11, 22:04) therealcmac therealcmac's gravatar image

One of my friends is switching to Verizon after they switched her off the $30 unlimited to $45 4gb and tethering.

(04 Jul '11, 22:11) JonSeals ♦ JonSeals's gravatar image

Well that blows... ATT charges you to use the data you already pay for... Next the water companies will start charging you for any use other then drinking it...

(04 Jul '11, 22:15) Theonecalleddoc Theonecalleddoc's gravatar image

It's like offering an all you can drink (in a bar) and then watch your customers spread the drinks to their friends waiting outside!

(04 Jul '11, 22:22) knightz4u knightz4u's gravatar image

It shouldn't matter unless you use a ridiculous amount of data for tethering.

(04 Jul '11, 23:57) JonSeals ♦ JonSeals's gravatar image

Well the only concrete proof would be from someone who was actually forced to go onto the higher data plan, which i could find none on my searches. This cnet article does Quote an AT&T spokesperson so it seems pretty proper to me.

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answered 04 Jul '11, 21:59

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Ive been using mywi for almost a year now, tethering about 4-5 gigs a month and I've never heard squat from AT&T. I love it. Im in the middle of finding a new place to live so these past few months I've been using extra data and still, nothing.
I am always worried they'll catch me, but for 10 months of tethering(so far) it was worth the $20

(05 Jul '11, 00:10) cybr1d ♦ cybr1d's gravatar image

Also, has there been any proof that PdaNet does actually hide usage? From what I've read it's all circumstantial

(05 Jul '11, 00:14) cybr1d ♦ cybr1d's gravatar image

The explanation is solid (relying on APN), but you'll never know unless you can confirm it with someone inside AT&T. Its a shame that AT&T would go through the trouble for the extra $10 and risk loosing the customer.

(05 Jul '11, 00:27) knightz4u knightz4u's gravatar image

Maybe they will smarten up now that Verizon is in the iPhone game....but then again wasn't AT&T going to buy Verizon?

(05 Jul '11, 00:30) therealcmac therealcmac's gravatar image

No, AT&T acquired T-Mobile US ..... I think it will be illegal to acquire Verizon as well :-) seriously!

(05 Jul '11, 00:32) knightz4u knightz4u's gravatar image

Ahhh, yes ok. I'm sure there is a monopoly law for that lol.

(05 Jul '11, 00:34) therealcmac therealcmac's gravatar image

Yea, I've read about their explanation, it does sound good, as u said an inside source would be better. Also, through this last month or so I haven't heard of many att "tethering attacks" which leads me to believe they might be giving up the fight.

(05 Jul '11, 00:37) cybr1d ♦ cybr1d's gravatar image

did the merger go through? F**k AT&T i'm gonna raise carrier pigeons,

(05 Jul '11, 01:14) 1L1keTurtles 1L1keTurtles's gravatar image

Well the courts have said it's ok, because they made the argument that verizon is enough competition, so it's not considered a monopoly. But officially it hasn't Gone thru. They keep appealing the courts decision. Sry if that didn't make sense. I'm drunk. Happy 4th all Americans!

(05 Jul '11, 02:20) cybr1d ♦ cybr1d's gravatar image

Every packet of internet data has a TTL (Time-To-Live) byte attached to it. Some people think it is one way AT&T uses to detect tethering:

http://modmyi.com/forums/t/755025-t-detects-tethering-6.html#post6021152

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answered 05 Jul '11, 12:04

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edited 05 Jul '11, 12:04

given the hit and miss track record of detecting tether users i would say that AT&T is relying on usage to flag tethering. If another form is to be used, the APN is a better fit into the cellular industry as it is a ready method to distibguish different access types. The TTL would still requires alot of work and customization to utilize.

(05 Jul '11, 12:27) knightz4u knightz4u's gravatar image
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